Support_Change Tertiary_funding_satisfaction Changes_describe Support_Government_Change Changes_why2 Party Party_support Age Sex Postcode Education Date Time Satisfied There is a balance that has to be struck between available funds and needs which I think is reasonably well met. They will increase funding on the basis that the Universities will increase the number of fee paying students support Universities have to have flexibility as well as more diverse sources of funding Liberal Weak 41-50 Male 4151 24/09/03 16:17 Ver_dissatisfied "The underfunding of universities can be seen every time one visits a campus (poor and decaying infrastructure), as well as the relative decline in terms of global ranking (Australia does not have a single university in the global top ten)." "less federal money, more money from students." Oppose Federal funding should be much more extensive as it is an investment in the future of the nation. Liberal Vweak 41-50 Male 2602 24/09/03 16:59 Ver_dissatisfied "Education, especially tertiary education, is at the core of new economic industries as well as fostering classical human self-knowledge. Both of these imperatives should now lie at the heart of any modern industrial society." "Any increase in government funding should be matched by greater private contributions, particularly from students. In short, it is a triumph of a narrow-minded, inequitable policy prescription that will have major deleterious effects in the long-run." Soppose "I firmly believe that tertiary education should be free, much like Years 11 and 12 schooling at the moment. The case for free education makes more sense now than ever. Fees and deregulation miss the point about quality and accessibility." Green Vstrong 18-30 Male 2602 24/09/03 17:34 V_satisfied it's fair and it works well imposition of an ideology Oppose ideological interference National Weak 31-40 Male 6105 24/09/03 17:45 Dissatisfied the externalities/ social contributions of university education are not accounted for. The system is becoming more user-pays Oppose they have the potential to create a two-tiered degree structure that is inequitable Labor Weak 18-30 Female 2903 24/09/03 17:49 Neither The overall level of funding does not inform the debate greatly. The use of those funds is the key consideration. "The govt is trying to introduce price signals, competition and other elements of 'the market' ." Oppose Education does not operate like a normal market. Consumers are not sufficiently informed or empowered. The value of education in contributing to social mobility is not adequately recognised. Independent Weak 41-50 Male 6162 24/09/03 17:50 Ver_dissatisfied Universities appear to be struggling to provide education and essential support services for their students. Lectures and tutes are too large to be educational. Unis appear to be having to rely on fee-paying overseas students to survive. I have completely forgotten. Perhaps I'm a useless respondent! Other see above Green Strong 41-50 Female 3058 24/09/03 17:52 Ver_dissatisfied It dosnt ecourage innovation It encourages improved management and delivery support_supp to move the universities from mediocracy Liberal Strong 61+ Male 4069 24/09/03 17:54 Dissatisfied "Grant funding should be enough, but it seems to only go to key players in the field (money makes money) and ignores blue-skies research. Funding for teaching is also inadequate, despite the large fees charged to students. " "There will be a little bit more money, for a lot of changes, many of which will cost most of the extra money to put in place, forcing universities to charge more for degrees, further promoting wealth as an entry qualification." Oppose "It won't help improve Austrlaian research or teaching, it will limit the access of poor intelligent students and it will be an administrative nightmare." Labor Strong 18-30 Female 2607 24/09/03 17:55 Ver_dissatisfied Post Grads basically bankroll universities because they dont get Austudy and have to pay upfront Universities setting their own fees Neither I dont think it will change anything Other Vstrong 31-40 Male 3000 24/09/03 18:11 Ver_dissatisfied Because investment from the public purse has been declining as a proportion of the costs of running universities Great user pays Other I work in a university. I can see advantages to institutions but feel they are negative for the community at large Labor Vstrong 51-60 Male 6019 24/09/03 18:15 Ver_dissatisfied Howard has gutted educ spending salary neg reform. increased HECs. more fee payers Soppose ideology driven National Vstrong 51-60 Female 2290 24/09/03 18:15 Ver_dissatisfied I would like my children to have free university education just as B Nelson did. My children will be responsible for paying back the cost of their education. Soppose "Education should be free, it is important for the future of our country." Green Vstrong 51-60 Female 7320 24/09/03 18:19 Ver_dissatisfied Non-governemnt funding usually comes with strings attached; knowledge creation is measured by commercial outcomes; universities are becoming 'processing lines' or 'conveyer belts' Funding is conditional; reduction in funding levels; funding conditional on IR changes Soppose Because this Government continues to destroy this country; restricting access to knowledge and better opportunities for young and old. Green Vstrong 41-50 Female 2153 Bachelors degree 24/09/03 18:20 Dissatisfied Universities waste some of the inadequate funding they receive "More flexibility for the Unis, less support for the poor" Neither I need more information to make a firmer decision Liberal Weak 51-60 Female 2779 Finished High School 24/09/03 18:22 Dissatisfied Significant drop in real funding over Howard years Goverment control of courses with anti-union thread Oppose Unis shouldn't be run be government ideologues Green Vweak 41-50 Male 6157 Bachelors degree 24/09/03 18:25 Dissatisfied too little overall funding for tertiary education. funding based on student numbers as well as courses studied. Neither Not fully familar with changes so cannot comment at length. National Strong 61+ Male 2340 Bachelors degree 24/09/03 18:26 Ver_dissatisfied it is drastically underfunded leading to poor campus conditions "shifty a greater share of the cost of educaiton onto studnents and creatign a two tiered uni system, whilst allowign rich dumb kids to queue jump into courses." Soppose it forces students into a lifetimeo f debt and makes uni unaffordable for most. Independent None 18-30 Female 2110 Finished High School 24/09/03 18:32 Dissatisfied "Although facilities seem adequately funded, there has been a critical cutback of entrance places for students particularly over the last year." Up to 30% increase or decrease on courses according to the universities; 5 year learning entitlement per person; commercial style interest rate on FEE-HELP and full fee payers. Oppose "I now oppose much of the package - I support 30% discretion on fees however the IR agenda, the attack on equality of opportunity I oppose; but most of all the learning entitlement. " Democrat Weak 18-30 Male 4078 Finished High School 24/09/03 18:33 Dissatisfied too many students in workshops/tutorials for effective learning. "increase in fees, more places allocated to full fee paying students, discriminatory" Oppose "Myself, my children will find it difficult to pay upfront and/or larger HECS debt." I prefer not to say Weak 31-40 Female 6147 TAFE or equivalent diploma 24/09/03 18:36 Dissatisfied "As a student, I am very disappointed with the quality and availability of opportunities from simple things like consistent abolition of practical sessions, overcrowding of lectures due to overenrolment, to simplistic and cheap assessment methods." "To deregulate HECS; to tie funding with industrial relations ""reforms""; to force the removal of small courses; to limit subsidised education to a five year ""entitlement""; to allow more full-fee-paying places; to aid corporate idealism in governance" Soppose The reforms will fundamentaly exascerbate the disadvantage in accessing university already currently experienced by people from lower socio-economic backgrounds. I prefer not to say Other 18-30 Male 5006 Finished High School 24/09/03 18:36 Dissatisfied "More funding needed to keep fees down for Australians and to run courses with long-term, cultural rather than short-term economic value." Funding maintained in return for more compliance with government's ideology. Oppose "Universities should be generally autonomous institutions for transmission of culture and accessible to all on the basis of merit, not wealth." Other Vstrong 51-60 Male 6147 Postgraduate degree 24/09/03 18:59 Ver_dissatisfied "some who want to attend can't afford to, teaching and degree quality are on decline" no idea Soppose I wouldn't trust Brendan Nelson to lie straight in bed. This govt is driven by an access ideology that fails Other Weak 41-50 Male 4061 Postgraduate degree 24/09/03 19:03 Neither I do not know enough about the subject to have definate opinion. no definate opinion Other not enough info Independent Vweak 51-60 Male 4121 Did not finish High School 24/09/03 19:03 Ver_dissatisfied "not enought books, tutors or suitable teaching rooms." Only Gov. approved courses will be available Soppose Some unable to complete degree. and subjects of choice Labor Vstrong 51-60 Female 2777 Finished High School 24/09/03 19:07 Ver_dissatisfied Too many disparate and oppressive issues tied onto a single raft of funding-linked controls. inversely proportionate relationship between traditional stick and carrot. Soppose Th ripple effect will limit tertiary-educational access and academic freedom. Liberal Vstrong 41-50 Male 2076 Postgraduate degree 24/09/03 19:12 Ver_dissatisfied "priorities have shifted from learning, towards shuffling paper" no idea Oppose "again, shifting focus from learning" Democrat None 41-50 Female 2485 Bachelors degree 24/09/03 19:22 Dissatisfied Taxes keep going up but we can't properly fund the intellectual assets of tomorrow - I would rather pay for equity and access in unis than politicians' super and tavel entitlements. "The more rich people you attract, the greater your funding potential." Oppose "If you move too far from 'equity & access' and too far toward 'user pays', the more you undermine tertiary education. Look at Woollongong's re-marking scandal." Liberal Weak 31-40 Male 2042 TAFE or equivalent diploma 24/09/03 19:41 Satisfied I would prefer to see Universities exposed to free market forces rather than Govt funding more exposure to free market forces Neither the need to develop a deeper understand Liberal Strong 41-50 Male 4220 Postgraduate degree 24/09/03 19:48 Ver_dissatisfied discourages young people to go on to tertiary and this squanders brains. increasing pyaing places. Making it harder fo lower income kids to enrol Soppose first degrees should be made easier to access for academically gifted low income students not the ohter way around Liberal Vstrong 61+ Male 4218 Postgraduate degree 24/09/03 20:21 Ver_dissatisfied "Conditions of employment have been eroded - salaries, student::staff ratios. Quality staff are being attracted elsewhere - either outside the universities in this country or in academia overseas." Higher HECS charges & a higher salary cut-off point. Universities given the right to increase HECS charges above C'wealth set levels by up to 30%. Funding tied to reforms in industrial relations. Change in the basis of research funding Soppose Tertiary education has been developed Democrat Weak 61+ Female 2069 Postgraduate degree 24/09/03 20:23 Ver_dissatisfied Seems to be an imbalance between capital funding and recurrent expenditure. As if 'bricks and mortar' are more worthy than a pool of educated citizens. HECS withdrawn for extended degrees (eg 6 years to complete 4-year degree. Full fee paying students don't need to meet academic standards of HECS students. Tying industrial relations with funding. Soppose "Economic model is based on wrong assumptions: worst is that students only attend universtity trro get a better paying job. University must primarily be a place of learning, not training." Democrat Vstrong 41-50 Male 2615 Finished High School 24/09/03 20:32 V_satisfied Too much given to the sector because being in the sector find that monies are spent recklessly. Structured that the staff have the ability to negotiate directly with the University and that Uni has option to increase or decrease HECS fees to suit the course. support_supp The University is in a much better position to determine the fees than a bueracrat in Canberra. And academic staff should not be above all others in the community and should have to justify their positions. Liberal Vstrong 31-40 Male 4116 Bachelors degree 24/09/03 21:16 Neither "Student debt is at a level that is still manageable, after graduation." The Government is allowing more places for full-fee paying students while maintaining the same levels for HEC's students. It is attempting to eliminate the influence of Student Unions. Neither Have yet to assess thoroughly any positive or negative outcomes. Liberal Vstrong 41-50 Male 4120 Finished High School 24/09/03 21:23 Ver_dissatisfied Education will be the prvidence of the rich user pays Soppose placing a value on commercial objectives over educational needs Democrat Strong 51-60 Male 2250 Bachelors degree 24/09/03 21:34 Dissatisfied Federal government has squeezed this area along with others when it should have been given priority Increase some HECS fees and full fee enrolments and putting stricter requirements on university administrations Oppose The current system is relatively simple and equitable - they are trying to bend things for idological purposes Labor Strong 51-60 Male 4121 Bachelors degree 24/09/03 21:49 Neither Daare I say it but perhaps we have too many Universities. THe goverment is spreading the money too thinly. Do not know enought to pass judgement on them. Neither Same as question 3. Liberal Vstrong 31-40 Male 2230 Bachelors degree 24/09/03 21:50 Ver_dissatisfied Higher education is returning to the 1950s and 60s - the preserve of the wealthy. "They allow universities to increase fees by 30%, give more places to full fee-paying students and ties funding to government directives to break the academic unions." Soppose It will soon be impossible for most families to afford to send their kids to university. Labor None 41-50 Male 2550 Bachelors degree 24/09/03 22:00 Ver_dissatisfied People that introduce HECS were educated for free. Have to see it in practice. Neither A/A Other Other 41-50 Male 4680 Postgraduate degree 24/09/03 22:08 Ver_dissatisfied Too controlled by economic purse - needs input from our facets of the community The most popular unis can charge higher fees and unis can select courses based on financial reasons rather than what is required out in the big world Soppose The reasons for the changes are not for the benefit of students or the skills that they will require to support our nation Green None 51-60 Female 4031 Postgraduate degree 24/09/03 22:28 Ver_dissatisfied inequality will be exacerbated through these 'reforms' they charge what they like (with a cap at 30% of what they currently charge); they can introduce full fee paying places for domestic students Oppose "academic standards will drop (as there will no longer be a requirement to attain a certain standard, if one can just pay one's way into a course) and thereby create inequalities - further regional centres might be left behind." Labor None 18-30 Female 4075 Bachelors degree 24/09/03 22:28 Neither "A lot of money is spent in the sector, not all of it effectively. Universities need to have less waste before they can complain about lack of funding." "Students will be required to pay more, full fee paying students will be offered places based on their ability to pay, market forces will ensure regional unis have less resources and the main unis will become more elitist." Oppose "I feel that education should be provided on the basis of a child's (or young adult) ability, not their parents ability to pay." Labor Weak 18-30 Male 4214 Finished High School 24/09/03 22:54 Neither Its not funding that matters but the strucutres and incentives in teh systemdk greater flexibility support_supp because they'll bring the unis into the modern world and allow the development of world class univerisites. Liberal Vstrong 31-40 Male 2011 Postgraduate degree 25/09/03 0:12 Ver_dissatisfied As a mature age student I am appalled to have had to wait years to be able to afford to attend uni only to now be incurring a huge debt. universities will have the ability to charge what they like for courses offerred to subsidise their funding Soppose I believe the govt. should be maintaining control over fees and aiming for more students rather than making uni elitist as I believe this will do. Education should be affordable for all without penalties Labor Vstrong 41-50 Female 4510 Bachelors degree 25/09/03 0:42 Dissatisfied The comittment to university funding by this federal governement is sub standard attempts to bully the universities into accepting industrial relations Howard/Abbott style Soppose I strongly support the ability of workers to negotiate collective agreements in their workplaces I prefer not to say None 41-50 Male 2602 Postgraduate degree 25/09/03 1:02 Ver_dissatisfied "Education is seen as a cost by the Federal Government, not as an investment" "INcreasing the student costs, which will effect the ability of any Autralian to attend university" Soppose It's the investment versus cost argument Democrat Strong 41-50 Male 4740 Postgraduate degree 25/09/03 4:53 Dissatisfied Greater emphasis should be placed on education for the underpriivileged. Increase in HECS. Oppose The government should reassess its priorities for education - increase fees and push out those who cannot afford a tertiary education - is university becoming an elitist organisation? Liberal Strong 51-60 Female 2315 Postgraduate degree 25/09/03 6:43 Satisfied Australia has it better than other countries but there is much room for improvement. A significant amount of funding is being offered conditional to industrial relations reform in universities. Oppose It sounds like bribery to me; refusing autonomy for universities. Democrat None 18-30 Male 4113 Bachelors degree 25/09/03 7:04 Dissatisfied Universities should have as little bureaucratic interference as possible. They should favour students who perform academically in Australia. Books & Fees subsidised. They should be guided by government to have a totally flexible system of administration. "It seems to encourage high fee paying students, rather than those who perform academically. The primary intake should be from academic performers who are Australian citizens and residents. There is too much government interference." Oppose There is too much interference with university administration. The emphasis should not be aimed at high paying students. Liberal None 61+ Male 2066 TAFE or equivalent diploma 25/09/03 7:17 Dissatisfied not enough funding for quality teaching and research and too much government funding for student commitment "to give universities more autonomy, pay staff according to quality, make students pay more for their investment" support_supp they are trying to address the problems in a socially just way - social justice in Rawlsian intertemporal sense Liberal None 51-60 Male 2023 Postgraduate degree 25/09/03 7:24 Ver_dissatisfied The future wealth of Australia is dependent upon it Less of a pool of talented students gaining entry Oppose "Government is responsible to the people in making decisions, not vested interest" Labor Strong 51-60 Male 4078 TAFE or equivalent diploma 25/09/03 7:46 Satisfied "A user pays system with income-contingent thresholds delivers equity, and funding to unis" More market forces to allow unis to specialize Neither "I don't really understand the minutia of the changes, only the misleading rhetoric" Labor Weak 31-40 Male 2062 Bachelors degree 25/09/03 8:02 Ver_dissatisfied Taxpayers should not fund universities to increase % payable of fees via tax on graduates earning above an annual amount of income support_supp Not adequate but goes some way to cutting off mendicancy Liberal Other 41-50 Male 3185 Postgraduate degree 25/09/03 8:18 Dissatisfied Because things get cut when the funds dry up mainly. tutes etc books also computer labs stay old. I believe that more place ofr uni will be full fee payable so the uni's will prefer richer people. Poor people won't be able to afford it. Soppose because people like myself won't get the chance to an education. social justice will die. the divide will completely conquor the poor and disabled. Labor Weak 41-50 Female 4051 Did not finish High School 25/09/03 8:19 Dissatisfied Neither funded enough nor appropriately - shouldn't tier faculties or charge HECS for example more devolution and extra funding linked to (unfair) IR changes Soppose Gov not interested in broadbased effective education rather a tool to push reactionary IR policies. Other Weak 31-40 Female 4606 Postgraduate degree 25/09/03 8:19 Ver_dissatisfied The Federal Government doesn't take enough responsibility for funding student places for Australians or adequate and appropriate research funding Cutting Federal funding support and forcing Universities to seek private sector funding and more full fee paying overseas students Soppose The changes will disadvantage Australians by reducing the number of students who can afford University and will impose draconian employment standards on university staff Other None 61+ Female 4051 Did not finish High School 25/09/03 8:24 Dissatisfied Some bright people are missing out They want to shed some of the load Oppose The government's role should be to ensure equity of oportunity for all students Green Strong 51-60 Male 4178 Finished High School 25/09/03 8:38 Dissatisfied "increasing fees, reduced contact classes with academic staff, increased pressure on staff to do too much" they will increase funding if the universities also increase their revenue input and one is contingent on the other so it is double barrelled Soppose "creates inequity in the system, education should be accessible to all, not just those who can afford to pay and it is currently becoming more and more for those who can afford to pay as opposed to those who cannot. It is increasing the divide in Australia" Labor Strong 41-50 Female 4161 Postgraduate degree 25/09/03 8:44 Ver_dissatisfied tying uni funding to an ideological position on IR is shameful shift the burden from govt to consumers - students and families Soppose university education is a community investment not a cost to be borne by individuals Labor Weak 51-60 Male 2031 Bachelors degree 25/09/03 8:50 Dissatisfied The universities need to have more scope for raising funds apart from the Federal govt. The universities can have more full fee courses but increased regulation of some kind is in the package as well. Other I support those that allow more freedom to the unis and oppose those that involve more red tape. Liberal None 51-60 Male 2089 Postgraduate degree 25/09/03 8:54 Ver_dissatisfied "Tertiary education is now less 'free' than it has ever been, and tertiary institutions have had to supplement income by, among other things, import of overseas students, which has had a number of detrimental impacts." Funding will be linked to the IR issue of workplace agreements Oppose "educational funding, particularly at the federal level should not be conditional upon agreements to work agreements." Green Strong 31-40 Male 2062 Bachelors degree 25/09/03 8:55 Dissatisfied it is already pricing some out of education - there is a downgrading with less staff per student ratio financially exclusive and ceding to total govt control - it will create an even greater ruling class Soppose shades of hitler with control over knowledge - it will reserve tertiary ed for the elite. as users pay they will demand passes as they have 'paid' for their degree this will create a dumming down effect I prefer not to say Other 41-50 Female 4849 Bachelors degree 25/09/03 8:55 Dissatisfied The impact of the howard governemtn's cuts to higher education has meant that people like deans are expected to do far too much -the eveidenc of lack of funding in serivec to students is clear Universites can charge higher fees to genrate more private income Oppose Government is not fulfilling its public responsibility to fund higher education - it is ideological witness industrial relations reforms at the same time to get any increase Labor Strong 51-60 Male 5045 Postgraduate degree 25/09/03 8:57 Ver_dissatisfied "I am concerned at the increasing level of student debt, and the increasing tendency for some Universities to cherry-pick the courses it perceives as most likely to produce wealth graduates which will in turn put money back into the University." "They aim to trade-off increased funds (including through a greater ability for Uni's to set their own fee levels) against more prescriptive measures for administering Unis, ie through setting enrolment sizes and encouraging enrolment in certain courses." Soppose "They encourage a culture of fee for service, will probably lead to a decrease in enrolments for people from low socio-economic backgrounds (thus decreasing diversity), and will shift the focus from learning to making a living to pay off fees." Labor Strong 18-30 Female 2008 Bachelors degree 25/09/03 8:59 Ver_dissatisfied education is a part of our social capital and as such should be a government priority. universities at present are businesses not places of unbiased learning. a further attempt to privatise higher education Soppose tertiary education is a cornerstone of our nation Labor None 51-60 Male 7018 Postgraduate degree 25/09/03 9:00 Satisfied Australia seems to have a reasonable balance of support for tertiary students. Many more young people are able to have a go here than many other countries. "I believe government will be reducing subsidies with a view to making Universities pay more of their own way, allowing more places for full fee paying overseas students, and steering Universities towards more market oriented courses." Neither I worry about University loss of autonomy but support connection to the real world. Democrat Weak 41-50 Male 4011 Bachelors degree 25/09/03 9:04 Dissatisfied "I would prefer the nation to see university as a rights for those with the grades to get in, not them having to afford university as well. Given that is my view any costs that have to be past onto students is no less than a disgrace." They get extra money if they don't negotitiate wages and conditions of staff with the unions. Soppose "I am a strong believer in collective action for workers, it is the only way to prevent a great divide between the working people." Labor Strong 41-50 Female 4059 Bachelors degree 25/09/03 9:05 Ver_dissatisfied chronically underfunded universities cannot provide excellence in education or research; the US model does not translate due to the lack of equivalent private sector funding "more user pays = harder for low-income bright kids wanting uni education; more pressure on professional fees; everyone pays. If tax system is working, those who earn more as a result of their uni education will pay more tax and thereby repay the cost." Soppose They are based on the false assumption that the only beneficiary from individual education is the individual. Democrat Weak 41-50 Female 7008 Bachelors degree 25/09/03 9:08 Ver_dissatisfied Reduces access Unis will be able to set their own fees Soppose Further reduce access and is inequitable Labor Strong 51-60 Female 4110 Postgraduate degree 25/09/03 9:13 Ver_dissatisfied education is the key to the future of australian society ateempts to use funding to change industrial relations landscape Soppose total disregard for learning - more money for war and sport Labor Vstrong 51-60 Female 4000 Postgraduate degree 25/09/03 9:14 Dissatisfied Tertiary education should be free; or if not free than substantially so. To decease the liability of the government. Soppose As above. Labor Strong 18-30 Female 2000 Bachelors degree 25/09/03 9:25 Ver_dissatisfied See www.the-funneled-web.com Increasing the micromananagement of universities by the Cabinet Soppose They exacerbate the continuing decline of the university sector Green None 61+ Male 2090 Postgraduate degree 25/09/03 9:26 Dissatisfied need to expand participation flexible funding ... greater autonomy to set fees support_supp current system inadequate and excessively restrictive Labor Strong 51-60 Male 5006 Postgraduate degree 25/09/03 9:27 Ver_dissatisfied huge disparity in loads in terms whobear costs; plus huge disparities in terms of how many$/stduent are spent "a dangerous mixture of 'incentives' to get non-govt $, but ALL within restrictive 'rules' from Canberra!" Oppose "if unis are to have 'full' freedom then let them go about getting $ via fees/courses they see are financial; otherswise, treat it as a longterm public investment and fund appropriately" Independent Weak 51-60 Male 4350 Postgraduate degree 25/09/03 9:46 Dissatisfied disadvantages students financially when they work - not easy to pay back funds a loan scheme where you get so much money and when it's used that's it pay yourself Soppose it will mean education for the rich and not the rest Independent Weak 41-50 Female 5092 Postgraduate degree 25/09/03 9:59 Ver_dissatisfied Because a decrease in public funding for the higher education sector increases social inequality and debt burdenand To further 'deregulate' funding and increase student contributions Soppose Low socioeconomic students who are already disadvantaged will have less incentive or opportunity to aspire to tertiary education Labor Strong 41-50 Female 4030 Postgraduate degree 25/09/03 10:04 Dissatisfied Universities are being starved of funds - so the quality of our education is going downhill and academics are increasingly being squeezed. All I know is that it will cost us more. Neither I doubt the Howard government cares about providing publically accessible higher education. Green Strong 18-30 Female 4011 Bachelors degree 25/09/03 10:08 Ver_dissatisfied "Overcrowded classes, inadequate income support, underpaid academics, students from low income families excluded, deterrence factor of fees and debt, charging of illegal fees for course readers etc." "About shifting the burden of paying for higher education from the public purse to the private one. Reducing the relative equality of access that we currently enjoy, making it easier for privileged students to get into uni with less focus on merit and more" Soppose "Because they are incredibly unfair, will make many of the problems substantially worse. Will exclude even more students from low-income families and deter even more students because of the deterrence factor of massive debt" Labor Strong 18-30 Male 5006 Finished High School 25/09/03 10:10 Dissatisfied We must invest in the future. "A combination of cost shifting, market deregulation, and liberal party ideology." Soppose The changes will lead to inequity in terms of access to education and a bias towards market friendly disciplines Green Weak 31-40 Male 2906 Bachelors degree 25/09/03 10:11 Dissatisfied Tertiary education is underfunded & invested in by both gov't & private industry "fee deregulation, changes to funding, changes to bureaucracy" Oppose problems outweigh the benefits Green Weak 18-30 Male 3070 TAFE or equivalent diploma 25/09/03 10:14 Ver_dissatisfied Quality education requires a quality investment. The State is discharging its responsibilites for the community's educational resources. Soppose Government proposals threaten the educational and research infrastructure and the future of innovation and progress in Australia. Labor Strong 41-50 Female 3057 Postgraduate degree 25/09/03 10:36 Dissatisfied "Too many students per class, too carrier driven" funding linked to reregulation of fees and employment in universities. Soppose "reduces access and equity, moves away from universities as critics to university as trainer" Green Strong 18-30 Male 2008 Bachelors degree 25/09/03 10:40 Dissatisfied "Class sizes are too large, Lecturer's and Tutors have little time for their students, and other factors effecting quality" "Allowing Universities to charge increased fees for most courses, increasing the amount of full-fee paying students." Oppose The proposed changes would raise $1.8 billion in revenue - the same cost as Howards 'hamburgere and a milshake' tax cut; higher education should be afunding priority of government. Green Strong 18-30 Male 3068 Bachelors degree 25/09/03 10:40 Dissatisfied Our education is becoming expensive for individuals which exludes the have nots. The standard of eductation on a world ranking is falling. Universities are able to charge increased fees to students which moves to a user pays scenario Oppose "They are another means of excluding the poor, and saddles those unable to pay with debts that delay other spends such as housing etc." I prefer not to say Other 31-40 Male 2035 Postgraduate degree 25/09/03 10:45 Dissatisfied lack of funding makes it difficult to keep abreast with best practice thus eroding teh quality of training available to young Australians. Break unions and pauperise academics Soppose union bashing is pauperising the [disappearing] Australian middle class Green Vstrong 41-50 Female 2641 Postgraduate degree 25/09/03 11:24 Dissatisfied I don't think HECS achieves the goals it was originally intended to "deregulation of HECS, introducing VSU" Soppose It will turn the University sector back into elite education only Labor Weak 18-30 Male 5048 Finished High School 25/09/03 11:30 Ver_dissatisfied It forces the universities to give priority to getting bums on seats at the expense of academic standards and the best traditions of scholarship. "Increased costs to students, more government interference in university administration, threats to the principles of staff involvement in academic management and ideologically driven attacks on student and staff unionism." Soppose See 2 above Green Strong 61+ Male 7005 Postgraduate degree 25/09/03 11:31 Ver_dissatisfied Tertiary education is supposed to be of great benefit to the nation so should be free "funding linked to industrial reform, allowing individual bargaining agreements, and also aligned with level of fee paying students." Soppose "I'm a union person so oppose individual bargaining, and believe that more fee paying students tends to decrease number of supported student positions" Green Vstrong 41-50 Male 2570 Bachelors degree 25/09/03 11:51 Ver_dissatisfied "Public education is viewed as a cost to government, rather than an asset" Changes will be dependent on industrial relations reform Soppose "Funding for education should be about quality, not political ideology" Other Weak 31-40 Male 2640 Postgraduate degree 25/09/03 12:07 Ver_dissatisfied "inadequate federal funding in order to promote preemptive war policy overseas, irresponsable tax cuts for the wealthy, " Do not know the policy well enough to comment Other do not know policy well enough to comment I prefer not to say Other 41-50 Male 9735 Postgraduate degree 25/09/03 12:08 Ver_dissatisfied There is not enough funds to ensure that students are getting the best teaching available and materials. Universities need to be funded so that they can provide up to date material to their students. "Less government funding to universities would mean that less students were able to gain further education, thus more students being unemployed and on welfare. " Oppose I feel that more students should be encouraged and even supported to attend university. Labor Other 18-30 Female 4362 Bachelors degree 25/09/03 12:37 Ver_dissatisfied underresourced funding burden placed on students instead of government Soppose "education should be free, equitable and accessable" Labor Vstrong 18-30 Male 2292 Bachelors degree 25/09/03 12:40 Ver_dissatisfied Staff to student rations have gone through the roof. "To increase the use of market-based sources of funding, with some 'tied' increases in grants." Oppose "They avoid the core problem of defining what a university education is, who should have access to it and who benefits from it." Green Weak 41-50 Male 2602 Postgraduate degree 25/09/03 12:55 Ver_dissatisfied I would never do a BSc again under the current HECS conditions. The pay upon graduation does not make it worth it. "increasing fees. Universities have to rely on less government funding, & charge students more." Soppose "It is unfair that bankers etc gets $60,000 plus, and does not have to pay for their training, & we serve the public interest & have to be in debt most of our lives to do this." Democrat None 31-40 Female 2795 Postgraduate degree 25/09/03 13:05 Neither I don't feel well informed. I am completing a Masters at UTS and am very satisfied with the cost etc Increase in full fee paying students and increase in fees across the Board Soppose The more people able to access education the better regardless of ability to pay Labor Weak 41-50 Female 2010 Postgraduate degree 25/09/03 13:18 Ver_dissatisfied "more and more impersonal, massive tutorials and general lower std " linking funding to industrial realtions 'reform' - AWA's being a chief component Soppose funding and industrial relations shoudl be completely independent issues Liberal Strong 31-40 Male 2026 Postgraduate degree 25/09/03 13:22 Ver_dissatisfied "Not enough places, too many students in each course offered, subjects dropped/not offered." "Increase in no of full fee paying students, increase in fees, loan scheme for fee payers with interest at CPI + %, req for staff to be offered AWAs in exch for greater funding" Soppose "Those who qualify should be eligible for positions, less access for disadvantaged students and possibly to wider community, those who take out loans will have long term debts, AWAs are ideological but not practical and take lots of resources to neg/admin" Independent Vstrong 31-40 Female 2095 Postgraduate degree 25/09/03 13:37 Ver_dissatisfied inadequate staffing user pays entry determined by ability to pay not necc academic merit Oppose Holds Universities to ransom enrolment income not academic excellence Labor Strong 51-60 Female 819 Bachelors degree 25/09/03 13:39 Dissatisfied "The Fed Gov is steering our society towards a mirror of the American model. The education funding reforms, along with the dismantling of Medicare are steps along that path." "Workplace agreements, individual contracts, and reforms, treating the delivery of education as a business - ie; to turn a profit. What I am worried about is the end product - ie Quality & substance." Soppose "The Federal Government is dividing society into the rich and wealthy (with boundless opportunities), and the second class who can fight over the crumbs left over, if they can afford it." Green None 31-40 Male 2303 TAFE or equivalent diploma 25/09/03 13:42 Ver_dissatisfied "Education has slipped backwards as a priority in Australia, with a 'user pays' attitude replacing the government reponsibility to provide it." "Increasing full fee paying places, increasing course fees, attacking union strength in the sector and increasing corporatisation of the sector" Soppose "The public have a right to a well funded, world class education system for all, not one that discriminates on wealth." Labor Weak 18-30 Male 2766 Bachelors degree 25/09/03 13:59 Ver_dissatisfied "Funding has been reduced in real terms for idealogical reasons, placing universities under extreme pressure to find their own funds, thus requiring academics to be entrepreneurs." "Again, idealogically driven, nothing to do with better delivery of education." Soppose "I believe that we should value education as a key contributor to society's development and advancement (economic, but also social, cultural, environmental, spiritual), not to devalue education by constant attacks on both the institutions and individuals." Labor Strong 41-50 Male 3747 Postgraduate degree 25/09/03 14:02 Dissatisfied tutorials are to crowdedfor professional degrees. Private education for the rich Soppose How can a mature age student like me afford it. How can you hold downa full time job as well as study for professional degrees? Green Vstrong 41-50 Male 7005 Finished High School 25/09/03 14:13 Ver_dissatisfied Of the various bad features the worst is the unfairness and the wastefulness of the present method of selection of university students by favouring the children of affluent parents rather than those with the greatest talent. An attempt to further change universities from their traditional role as centres of learning and research for long-term benefits to a role of preparing and training students to suit short-term business interests. Soppose The changes make no attempt to address the basic unfairness in the selection of students and the nature of the education encouraged by the government is not in our long-term interests - social or economic.. Labor Vstrong 61+ Male 3196 Bachelors degree 25/09/03 14:54 Ver_dissatisfied Staff cuts;course cuts;poor academic salaries/conditions;low morale; open system to private sources of income support "The coalition won't increase govt funding, nor will Labor. However the coalition is allowing private income sources to close the gap." Labor Weak 51-60 Male 4000 Bachelors degree 25/09/03 15:28 Ver_dissatisfied University education should not be the privilege of the rich. "More political control, less university control, less government expenditure on education, which ought to be a basi right." Soppose "I hate the way the politicians are taking money away from education, under the auspice of providing bigger and better services." Independent Weak 51-60 Female 3171 Bachelors degree 25/09/03 15:44 V_satisfied From my associations with university employees the overwhelming attitude is one of non accountablity and an attitude of disgust toward commercial considerations The Fed wants to make it complusary to offer individaul workplace agreements to all employees support_supp Why not? Liberal Strong 31-40 Male 2203 Bachelors degree 25/09/03 15:53 Ver_dissatisfied A nation's prosperity is directly proportional to the education of its people. Current funding implies promotion of ignorance. User Pays. Soppose Ability to pay should never be a criteria for access to education. Labor Vweak 61+ Male 2000 Postgraduate degree 25/09/03 16:53 Ver_dissatisfied "over-crowded, under-resourced, uncompetitive on the world stage and greedy in the attempt to recify the situation." "that universities must compete in an economic market place and the user must pay fully in an economic sense, without consideration of social disadvantages" Soppose I think that govt is out of touch with average people and don't understand that generally people can't afford uni without assistance. It seems they want unis to become elitest organisations again. Green None 18-30 Female 4830 Bachelors degree 25/09/03 17:04 Ver_dissatisfied I personally know people who have been turned off uni because of HECS and particularly because you cannot claim tax deductability unless you already work in the field - also repayments should kick in about 38k and be indexed Higher fees by 30% and worse for anyone starting in 2005 onwards Soppose "Making it harder for people to retrain to areas of job growth, too much reliance on poor quality OS students for cash, too hard for the poor to get into higher ed" Labor Weak 31-40 Male 2259 Postgraduate degree 25/09/03 18:42 Satisfied the Universities are not responding to changes that are taking place. They are very traditional and not innovative and challenging. The universities believe that the government has an obligation to use tax payers money to fund their salary. The government has succeeded in reforming private industries through their policy framework. Universities should respond to the same kind of change. support_supp The TEU should rise up to the challenges of modern workplaces and reform. Liberal Vstrong 51-60 Female 2614 Postgraduate degree 25/09/03 21:56 Ver_dissatisfied government abusing its powers and limiting funding to dictate industrial relations unconstitutionally Soppose "As author of the INSPECTOR-RIKATIŽ book on CD series, about political, constitutional, legal and other matters I deplore the misuse of power to harm the right of Australians." Independent Vstrong 51-60 Male 3084 Finished High School 26/09/03 0:30 Ver_dissatisfied "Tutorials are too big-often 30+ people in them, academics publically complain about staffing shortages and grant rejections to students and too little staff are left to mark too many papers within weeks." "More upfront fee places, stealing merit spots for others, interest rate loans and 30%fee increases." Soppose "My younger family members will probably think twice about studying certain courses and continuing onto uni because of high loans, force me to save for kid's uni for years while they are young." Labor Vstrong 18-30 Female 5065 Finished High School 26/09/03 0:38 Ver_dissatisfied University needs much more public funding Universities will only get funding if they put their staff on Australian Workplace agreements Soppose "Universities will get less Federal Government funding, more students will have to pay the HECS upfront" Green Vstrong 31-40 Male 2068 TAFE or equivalent diploma 26/09/03 4:48 Neither I don't feel knowledgeable to comment. But UQ has just completed massive new buildings - probably 'science' related. I am not in the know. Other I just don't know enough. Green Vstrong 51-60 Female 4075 Postgraduate degree 26/09/03 7:27 Ver_dissatisfied the quality of education has been affected the allowing university to charge a higher fee and thus get revenue from the students Oppose this will reduce access to education to a large proportion of the population Green Weak 18-30 Female 2015 Bachelors degree 26/09/03 8:25 Ver_dissatisfied Education should be for everone not just the rich Making funding on an individual university basis on issues such as course enrolements Oppose It will drastically reduced the funding to the universities outside of the Sydney and Melbourne thus reducing funding to poorer and rural people's education Labor Strong 18-30 Male 2041 Bachelors degree 26/09/03 8:45 Dissatisfied University is too expensive .. it imposes a glass ceiling on the lower and middle classes who can't afford it. Allowing unis to arbitrarily charge fees for their courses Soppose "It was hard enough for me to afford uni (from a well-off family) with HECS, without any $25k fees." Democrat Weak 18-30 Male 2204 Bachelors degree 26/09/03 9:04 Ver_dissatisfied "As a worker in the administration section of a university, I find that resources are stretched to the limit for dealing with increasing student demands." That funding will come more from student fees than from the government. support The changes are fine but the government should maintain their level of funding as well so that students and staff can study and work in a reasonable environment. Independent Strong 18-30 Female 2194 Postgraduate degree 26/09/03 9:11 Ver_dissatisfied "PhD students, those supposed to be held in highest regard for their ability to think through issues (in order to properly address new issues and thus add to the body of knowledge) should not be forced to rush their degree in the fastest possible time" privatisation of a public resource and asset by stealth - at least they could be honest and upfront about their motivation Soppose "time at university is a good time to work out who you are, how you fit in the world and how you would change the world given half the chance. What this Government is proposing will result in a society of clones who embrace the status quo" Labor Strong 31-40 Female 2206 Bachelors degree 26/09/03 9:35 Ver_dissatisfied Undervalues knowledge Increased flexibility for universities but leading to increased contributions from students. Other I support increased flexibility for universities but this MUST be accompanied by increased government funding. Labor Strong 31-40 Male 6008 Postgraduate degree 26/09/03 11:28 Ver_dissatisfied "Universities are massively underfunded, students bear too great a proportion of the costs." "User pays. Shift the burden onto students, lie about caps on fees and proportion of full up-front fee payers." Soppose "The Government is ignoring the public benefits of higher education, and forcing students to bear costs that will hinder them for years." Labor Vstrong 18-30 Male 6024 Finished High School 26/09/03 13:05 Ver_dissatisfied Funding must be higher Take costs of Government and on to individual students Soppose "They are drastic, draconian, illogical, ideological changes that will not improve the sector or access" Labor Vstrong 18-30 Male 3054 Bachelors degree 26/09/03 13:09 Ver_dissatisfied Overcrowding and extra pressures on academics "some more money, partial HECS deregulation, new grants scheme, limited time to study (5 years)" Soppose "higher fees discourage entry, create a tiered university system, ignore public benefits of education" Green Weak 18-30 Male 6009 Finished High School 26/09/03 13:10 Ver_dissatisfied Insufficient income support is provided to students while studying The Federal Government is keen to introduce more of a user-pays system by increasing hecs and increasing the capacity of universities to charge up-front fees which will deny lower income Australians access to Higher Education Soppose I strongly oppose the Fed Gov proposed changes because I believe eduation is an investment in human capital. It should not be viewed as a drain on the budget and the burden should not be passed onto students who lack the capacity to pay Labor Strong 18-30 Female 6100 Bachelors degree 26/09/03 13:11 Ver_dissatisfied "Funding is only based on economic returns, rather than social benefits or just studying for the sake of learning, there is inadequate funding for student unions, no funding for improving campus life, classes are so overcrowded, subjects are rationalised" "Deregulation of fees, greater debt burden on students, IR reforms, shorter learning entitlements for students" Soppose "They will place enormous finanacial pressure on students, will cripple campus life & totally kill diversity/equity in the system, will make uni's too vocationally driven,will turn unis into degree factories,will restrict co-curricular activities 4 student" Labor Vstrong 18-30 Male 3079 Bachelors degree 26/09/03 13:17 V_satisfied A simple comparison with Universities in the US and Europe shows that the funding for our uni's is very low "The Government wants to allow Uni's to charge more, increase HECS, increase the income level at which HECS needs to be repaid and allow for more full fee paying places" Oppose I think there are good points but in general they will lead to it being harder for deserving students on low income to get a higher education Labor Vstrong 18-30 Male 6111 Bachelors degree 26/09/03 13:18 Ver_dissatisfied "Inadequate government funding, and too much private sector activity." "Partial deregulation of fees, so students contribute even more to the cost of their degress, and increase in full-fee paying threshold." Soppose "This further undermines equity and accessibility for education, which will in turn have a cycle effect in which those who can afford to pay end up with higher paying jobs etc." Labor Strong 18-30 Male 3127 Bachelors degree 26/09/03 13:25 Ver_dissatisfied Because it isn't enough Deregulation. A bad thing. Soppose Because it limits access to poorer students Green Weak 18-30 Male 2008 Bachelors degree 26/09/03 13:31 Ver_dissatisfied "Because Education, not just universities, but the whole education sector is treated as just a liability by economic rationalism. The same goes for health. It should be seen as a long-term investment which will bear fruit if nurtured." Their way of pushing their ideological agenda of commodification of the workforce. Soppose Such interference in workplace relations by the government should not be tolerated Green Strong 51-60 Female 2203 Bachelors degree 26/09/03 13:59 Ver_dissatisfied Because it makes a mockery of the FREE AUSTRALIA IDEAL It simply means that education will be for the wealthy Soppose It deprives poorer people the right to free education Labor Vstrong 51-60 Male 6163 Did not finish High School 26/09/03 13:59 Ver_dissatisfied public education shouldn't burden students with lifelong debts. deregulation and increased financial burden on students Soppose only wealthy students will be able to afford higher education Labor Vstrong 18-30 Female 3102 Bachelors degree 26/09/03 14:00 Ver_dissatisfied "Class sizes are too big, libraries are underfunded, courses considered less relevant (eg: arts) are continually losing funds, lecturers are forced to spend less time researching, and students are paying too much for degrees, going into serious debt" "fees will be deregulated, unis will be able to increase # of up-front fee-paying students, they are tied to IR changes, students can access loans to pay off fees " Soppose "It decreases the academic standard of universities by allowing in students with lower standards because they can pay, students will be in debt for longer, unis will probably increase fees, particularly for courses like law and med." Labor Vstrong 18-30 Female 6076 Finished High School 26/09/03 14:06 Ver_dissatisfied "The universities are currently recieving so little funding that we have to cut courses, staff and contact time for students, which lowers the value of our education." The government is increasing funding (about the amount that they have cut since 1996) by charging students more money. Soppose Increasing fees for students universities to enact workplace reforms is lowering the standards of education and restricting access. Green Strong 18-30 Female 6162 Bachelors degree 26/09/03 14:21 Dissatisfied "No work, no scholarship, no money and expected to produce international standard research without any form of aid " attachments to funding amount to blackmai Soppose They are making higher education the preserve of only the wealthy...again! Independent None 41-50 Male 6050 Postgraduate degree 26/09/03 14:30 Ver_dissatisfied "Since the fincial year 1996/97 the reduction in operating grants to universities has seen courses, departments and sometimes whole campuses shut down, staff-student ratios deteriorate and an increasing reliance on private sponsorship." "$400 million in industrial blackmail money, reducing entrance scores for those with a greater ability to pay, deregulating fees, reducing staff and student input on university decision making. " Soppose "While I support an increase in base-funding and increased support for regional universities, the government's attempt to link much needed funding to their radical industrial agenda is irresponsible and selfish." Independent Strong 18-30 Male 6007 Bachelors degree 26/09/03 14:51 Ver_dissatisfied "not enough funding, too reliant on corporate sector" "cutbacks, union busting, " Soppose "inequitable, unsustainable, unreasonable" I prefer not to say Other 18-30 Male 3057 Bachelors degree 26/09/03 14:52 Ver_dissatisfied "Poor Resources, Overcrowded Classes" Deregulation of fees and of HECS Soppose The changes will cause greater inequity in the system Labor Strong 18-30 Male 3154 Bachelors degree 26/09/03 15:07 Ver_dissatisfied Equity Reduce equity by increasing full fee places Soppose It would reduce the rewarding of talent rahter than money Labor Strong 18-30 Male 2197 Bachelors degree 26/09/03 15:42 Dissatisfied leaves most ew graduates with a huge debt most graduates will have an enormous debt Soppose discourages students from low income families to enter further education Liberal None 41-50 Female 6112 TAFE or equivalent diploma 26/09/03 15:53 Dissatisfied "HECs has already started to restrict access, class sizes and resources have diminished." To brine universities into adopting an ideological approach to industrial relations which does not suit a collaborative based education sector Soppose Outraged at the blatent thuggery and impact on the education of my grandchildren Other Weak 51-60 Male 2602 Bachelors degree 26/09/03 15:58 Ver_dissatisfied "The Government has a responsibility to provide accessable and high quality education to all taxpayers and residents of Australia. As it stands, classes are overcrowded, lecturers too busy to help, and students are in poverty due to low government funding." "Deregulating the fee-setting system, reducing the number of HECS places for students, increasing the number of full-fee-paying students, aiming to reduce the number of 'universities' in Australia, introducing voluntary student unionism across Australia..." Soppose "Australia should invest in the future by supporting a fair, equitable public education system for all. These proposals will introduce increased barriers for students, especially poorer students, from gaining a quality tertiary qualification. " Democrat None 18-30 Female 6052 Finished High School 26/09/03 16:15 Ver_dissatisfied "Large class sizes, inadequate study resources, lack of staff" "Deregulation, funding cut, unis have to offer more fee-places as a result and fewer spots for students based on merit" Soppose I support equality in and access to education. Proposed changes do not increase either equality or access. I prefer not to say Other 18-30 Female 2075 Bachelors degree 26/09/03 16:34 Ver_dissatisfied "The government has defunded the sector to a level which destroy euqity in access, and damage our ability to produce a highly educated labour force and shift to industries that are sustainable in this country." "The legislation means a shift to an overloaded student contribution which will create heavy levels of debt, and still not find the funds to run our current amount of places at univresities. Fees will go up, places will drop. Education for the rich only." Soppose The government has been untruthful in much of what it has said about extra funding allocation. It's focus is completely the opposite of what it should be. Labor Vstrong 18-30 Male 2753 Bachelors degree 26/09/03 16:52 Dissatisfied "My university os falling to bits and full of international studnets with low english competancy, the unviersity needs more money" It basically is around deregualtion and rewards to institusions who are doing what they are told to do by the government Soppose I think it is going to make the situation worse at universities as entrance will be based on money and not merit and the workplace changes proposed will lead to some great staff leaving I prefer not to say Other 31-40 Female 6050 Bachelors degree 26/09/03 16:57 Ver_dissatisfied Because I see the pressure building on lecutures who have less and less time to produce quality education "That they are trying to make unis more accountable, and students pay more - user pays." Soppose "because I think it is going more towards the american system, and only the rich will be able to afford quality education" Democrat None 18-30 Female 2948 Bachelors degree 26/09/03 17:09 Dissatisfied Those who need it can't have it. More cuts Soppose Education is important Labor Vstrong 31-40 Female 6164 Postgraduate degree 26/09/03 17:51 Ver_dissatisfied Withdrawal of central funds in real terms More responsibility on university to set their own prices and raise there own funds Oppose Avoids responsibility for funding core pure researcher and culturally important subjects which do not attract the interests of fee-paying parents. Green Weak 51-60 Male 2060 Postgraduate degree 26/09/03 18:30 Other Fed Govt budget cuts to higher education have manufactured the funding crisis "the govt seeks to move the burden of high' edu to students, rather than puclic subsidy" Soppose the neo-liberal agenda seeks to commodify education. It is a public benefit and should remain so Labor Strong 18-30 Male 3070 Finished High School 26/09/03 22:32 Dissatisfied "because while the servies offered at my university are good, this is no thanks to the federal government which continuously slashes funding to tertiary education" I understand it to be legislation that shifts the funding burden away from the government and onto students (with the help of rich full fee students) Soppose because education should be a publicly-funded meritocracy not a bail-out for the rich Labor Strong 18-30 Male 3085 Bachelors degree 26/09/03 22:43 Dissatisfied some students will carry too much debt under currentl funding structures. . More reliance on fee paying students without affecting HECS places -so it is said. Oppose Under current funding structures some students will be forced to pay excessive debts which will stay with them for years. Labor Weak 41-50 Male 6155 Postgraduate degree 26/09/03 23:15 Ver_dissatisfied "HECS and Austudy are insufficient to finance. Teachers are overworked and underpayed. Humainities suffer, in favor of business, due to poor financing." Deregulation of HECS (up to 30%) and introduction of Student loan scheme. Possible creation of more uni places. Scrap subsidy loan with no alternative. Soppose "As in all industries, dereglation brings poorer quality in favor of higher profits. Tertiary education will become a class system as secondary education already has." Green Vweak 18-30 Male 6970 Finished High School 27/09/03 0:33 Satisfied HECS isn't perfect but it works "The students get screwed," Soppose See #3 Labor Vstrong 18-30 Female 6009 Finished High School 27/09/03 1:08 Ver_dissatisfied "Our uni is clearly short of money: courses are being cut, the gym roof leaks, there aren't enough rooms and classes are overcrowded." They will allow universities to increase HECS and have more full fee paying students. Soppose I don't think it's fair that people who do not have the grades (or are not intelligent enough) should be allowed to buy their way into uni. Green None 18-30 Male 6148 Finished High School 27/09/03 1:34 Satisfied fair enough you got to pay something but obviously universities are cutting proportionate student intakes at this level basically universities willl be free to charge students higher so that we become a class society where only the rick can afford uni Soppose why should students be selected on capacity to pay rather than academic record Labor Vstrong 18-30 Male 6147 Finished High School 27/09/03 3:48 Dissatisfied too expensive university only for the rich Soppose Education should be free for everyone Democrat Strong 18-30 Female 5034 Finished High School 27/09/03 10:05 Ver_dissatisfied "Changes ot funding over the lst few years has meant a shift in aulitative education to dollar driven agenda resulting in emphasis on money-making courses, fee-paying students, lack of accessibility to education, and incredible student indebtdenss" Increase in HECS fees and increase in level of full-fee paying students...privatisation -underlying agenda of deregulation of industrial relations in exchange for funding. No real interest in education Soppose I believe in accessible tertiary education for all students who qualify academically. It is only a universally educated population who will be able to make changes to improve our world. Labor Other 41-50 Female 3058 Bachelors degree 27/09/03 10:34 Ver_dissatisfied there are to many overcrowded lecture halls get more funding from domestic full-fee places Soppose universaty admission should be based on acedimic merits not banks blance Labor Vstrong 18-30 Male 2049 Finished High School 27/09/03 11:54 Ver_dissatisfied "It is simple ""Education is NOT for sale"" FREE EDUCATION!!" "it will destroy equitable education. 5 year limit on HECS means I cant do a 2nd degree. VSU means no student representation, individual staff contracts will kill the NTEU. More full fees means less HECS means its harder for poorer people to get into uni." Soppose "Because increased HECS deteres lower income families from encouraging their children to go to UNi, this will means less motivation to compleate school and australia will be full of yr 10 drop outs. education is for all not just the rich " Labor Strong 18-30 Male 2060 Finished High School 27/09/03 14:29 Satisfied Integrity of the HECS system allows access to education for all based on ability "Increase in number of domestic full fee playing places, industrial reforms." Oppose "The potential for students to be left with even bigger debts if more are ""pushed"" into full fee paying places." Democrat None 18-30 Female 2620 Postgraduate degree 27/09/03 14:32 Ver_dissatisfied "Funding relies on student contributions through HECS rather than federal funding, failing to reccognise the benefit to society of an educated population." The legislation aims to further de-regulate the sector by allowing universities greater ability to set student fees based on 'market demand' rather than funding required. funding is raised mainly through fees rather than additional funding. Soppose "funding should reflect the public benefit of tertiary education as no individual could function without the benefit of this education through doctors, lawyers, accountants, etc. Higher fees mean less accessability to lower income students." Labor Weak 18-30 Male 3039 Finished High School 27/09/03 15:48 Satisfied "It is exactly what I expect, diffilcult. " In order to be a boss if will cost . support "Every one needs to get paid, and so doesa the rent of the university." Labor Strong 41-50 Male 9403 Bachelors degree 27/09/03 16:21 Ver_dissatisfied We are being made dependent on the fashions of the private sector. To make universities more reliant on the private sector. Soppose "Education is a national resource, therefore a government responsibility." Labor Strong 31-40 Male 6020 Bachelors degree 27/09/03 19:28 Satisfied Probably because of my personal situation where I have been able to obtain HECS funding for what is advertised as a full-fee paying Masters degree Have not been following the news on this so don't feel I can comment although I knew there were some changes Neither Do not feel well informed enough to comment Green None 31-40 Female 3013 Postgraduate degree 27/09/03 20:26 Other "I was totally bewildered by both respondents other than to gather that they have woken up to the insidious Orwellian program that is overtaking society in general, and now them!" That you will only get the money if the government of the day agrees with your political views. Soppose "George Orwell was a visionary and the current Liberal party of today seems to be determined to control every aspect of our society, including our thoughts, aka thoughtspeak." Independent None 41-50 Male 5461 Finished High School 27/09/03 21:54 Ver_dissatisfied "Funding is lower than most developed countries (as a percentage of GDP), and is one (if not the only) country where education funding has decreased (relative to GDP). " A shift away from community funding of education to a user pays system. Soppose "The cost of full fee degrees (which will be about 70% of places, including international students) is a dramatic barrier to access, in light of limited operation of ""HELP"" scheme. " Labor Vweak 18-30 Male 3053 Bachelors degree 27/09/03 23:18 Other do not benefit from the funding no idea Other no opinion Green Other 31-40 Male 1720 Postgraduate degree 28/09/03 0:06 Ver_dissatisfied "Large lecture sizes, poor facilities in lecture rooms, and staff comments which highlight that university staff feel funding has been withdrawn. Also a focus on privatising and too many places reserved for upfront fee payers." Deregulating fee structures so unis can charge what they want for a degree (30% lattitude)... more full fee payers reserved spots. Soppose "I believe in a meritocratic system, and the idea that an individual can bypass merit requirements through their financial status is insulting, and it flies in the face of the equality of opportunity doctrine which i believe in." Labor Vstrong 18-30 Male 6015 Bachelors degree 28/09/03 0:35 Ver_dissatisfied "The quality of the arts faculty subjects has diminished as morale is low, the academics are underpaid and overworked. The clases are too big and you feel like an 'nobody' being processed through the system. It should be far more personalised." "Plans to deregulate hecs fees so that the elite universities can charge according to demand and increase funding. Also a plan to introduce more full-fee places for which students can get $50,000 loans from the government with which to pay these fees." Soppose "wealthier students will have access to education and poorer students will be deterred by the fees and debts, undermining the principle of universal access to education. Non-career oriented course (Arts, Science) will lose funding." Democrat Weak 18-30 Female 3161 Finished High School 28/09/03 11:27 Ver_dissatisfied "too much financial burden placed on students , uni cant provide cos not enough money" "up front fees, 30% increase in HECS, VSU, low s.e.s people will not be able to go to uni" Soppose "will create a tiered education system, on degree for rich, another for poor (thats if they can even get there!)" Labor Vstrong 18-30 Female 6101 Bachelors degree 28/09/03 15:07 Ver_dissatisfied "As a uni student I see first hand the level of overcrowded, under-resourced environments in which we all must work. " Deregulation. Soppose I believe in a fully funded public education system which is free for all people to access at all levels. Labor Strong 18-30 Male 2103 Bachelors degree 28/09/03 19:32 Ver_dissatisfied Universities are becoming starved for funds and are losing their impartiality. Extra funding dependent upon individual staff contracts. More self-funded places available. Soppose "Places on ability to pay, not merit. Some universities in poorer areas will receive less funding." Green Strong 51-60 Female 5051 Postgraduate degree 28/09/03 20:37 Ver_dissatisfied "I am a student of social work at JCU in Cairns (third year) subject courses that are essential for our learning are being cancelled due to fundind issues- in socially specifically, my learning is suffering because of this! " I have no understanding of why this government thinks that education and health are not a priority! Soppose The legislation will further diadvantage the poor. Green Strong 31-40 Female 4870 Bachelors degree 29/09/03 7:33 Dissatisfied To be recognised as the clever country we need people who are informed and educated. The current state of play for Uni's is that they must be vocationally focussed. I want to see courses that encourage thought and ideas not just pandering to populist agen The Federal government want s to remove autonomy from academic institutions and make them an arm of the government. Soppose I have a strong aversion to conservative government ideology. I believe that the common good should over ride any reason to make profit in the public sector. Green Strong 41-50 Female 2132 Postgraduate degree 29/09/03 8:33 Ver_dissatisfied "not enough lecturers, books, course variety, money etc" "increasae in full fee paying places, ability for unis to set own fees de-unionisation of academics " Soppose education for all not just the rich Labor Strong 18-30 Female 2026 Bachelors degree 29/09/03 10:51 Ver_dissatisfied Substantail funding cuts The changes allow university administrations to charge up to 30% for students and make substantial funding cuts to UWS. Soppose The changes will reduce the quality of education to the university which has the highest proportion of students from disadvantaged backgrounds in Sydney. It also discourages participation and limits access to university Labor Strong 18-30 Male 2041 Bachelors degree 29/09/03 11:11 Ver_dissatisfied Students are lumped with extra course reader and library fees. Tutes & lectuers are overcrowded. Not enough lecturers. Lumping students with extra fees and making university education based on wealth not merit. Soppose They do nothing to address the equity issues that are already prevelant in gaining a university education Labor Strong 18-30 Male 2008 Bachelors degree 29/09/03 12:03 Neither The quality of facilities and courses available is high in some areas and poor in others. Funding will largely shift to the private sector. Soppose "Cost of uni will increase, independence of universities will decrease." Labor Weak 18-30 Female 5062 Finished High School 29/09/03 12:53 Dissatisfied i am a uni student and i have to pay a compulsory fee to fund a guild that is representing special interests NOT common interests. When my taxes dont go to my uni into an industry that needs funding in the right places i am being robbed. one of the changes that i particularly support is the Brendan Nelson reforms and the Liberal Party's support for returning to VSU. support they make economic sense and they put the money back in the students' pockets. Liberal Vstrong 18-30 Female 6009 Bachelors degree 29/09/03 13:44 Ver_dissatisfied scholarship is reduced to factory turnout business control of learning Soppose Learning cannot be reudced to skills and business training Green Strong 61+ Female 3065 Postgraduate degree 29/09/03 14:07 Ver_dissatisfied Education should be publicly funded. It is an investment in our nation's future. These changes will allow Universities to increase HECS by 30 percent; increase the number of fee paying places in each course; introduce interest bearing loans for students and introduce voluntary student unionism and we will not support them.. Soppose I believe that access to education should be determined by brains not bank balance. It is the great equaliser. Democrat Vstrong 31-40 Female 5000 Bachelors degree 29/09/03 15:01 Ver_dissatisfied "I believe that the funding of all aspects of education is primarily a government responsibility, and that currently universities do not receive adequate funding from the government." "Basically allowing universities to charge students more, but failing to provide more funding from the government." Soppose "Universities need more funding for existing students as well as to increase the number of students they teach and research they undertake. As a society, the effects will be devestating if indviduals are made to pay themselves, causing debt." Labor Vstrong 18-30 Male 3087 Bachelors degree 29/09/03 15:04 Ver_dissatisfied inadequate funding for core uni business i.e. teaching and research blackmail of unis: accept our right-wing industrial agenda and we'll give you a little more money Soppose federal government is attempting to divide and devalue intellectual criticism Labor Weak 31-40 Female 4069 Postgraduate degree 29/09/03 15:11 Ver_dissatisfied I see academics doing more and more bureaucratic work that detracts from work they should be doing "The government wishes to control every aspect of university life from studnet unions, to courses, to industrial relations" Soppose universities are not businesses nor are they intruments of government policies - more education for education's sake Green Weak 51-60 Female 6162 Postgraduate degree 29/09/03 15:51 Dissatisfied too expensive and discount for paying up front is benefit to the rich increased hecs and full fee paying places Soppose because they make university access inequitable Labor Weak 18-30 Female 6009 Finished High School 29/09/03 15:53 Ver_dissatisfied Does not meet need and provide enough opportunities "Students and parents pay more; unacceptable link to undemocratic worklaws, AWA's" Soppose Will deny access to ordinary working families and poorer families university education Labor Strong 51-60 Male 5031 Bachelors degree 29/09/03 17:22 Ver_dissatisfied The public nature of the sector should be restored Privatisation of public universities Soppose I work in the sector and see their effects Green Weak 31-40 Male 3070 Postgraduate degree 29/09/03 20:50 Ver_dissatisfied full feeing paying students may change the standard expected of HECS students that universities have greater choice re full fee paying students Soppose because most ministers in their govt had free education under the Whitlam govt Labor Vstrong 31-40 Female 2753 Bachelors degree 29/09/03 21:39 Ver_dissatisfied insufficient funding to make ordinary Australians pay for tertiary education Soppose education is the key to a great community Green Other 41-50 Female 5019 Postgraduate degree 29/09/03 23:40 Ver_dissatisfied First hand experience as a part time academic. a shift from public to more private funding Oppose Fed. Govt. manipulation of tertiary education is inherently undesirable. Democrat Strong 61+ Male 4068 Postgraduate degree 30/09/03 8:21 Satisfied It is still too expensive to attend Uni for most families increase student fees by 30% and charge more for hecs Soppose Because it will effect me directly Labor Strong 18-30 Female 5162 Bachelors degree 30/09/03 9:18 Ver_dissatisfied Advertise clever country but not pay for it. beneift from knowedge but not pay towards it. Soppose see above I prefer not to say Other 41-50 Female 5021 TAFE or equivalent diploma 30/09/03 9:55 Dissatisfied "Resourcing inadequate for teaching at international standard comparable to where Australia should be, insufficient incentive for top academics to thrive in large numbers - resulting in too much mediocrity surviving. " A move from current level of accountability to new requirements with industrial agenda forced on universities. Soppose I support accountability for public funding not undemocratic forcing of industrial conditions. Labor Strong 51-60 Female 5069 Postgraduate degree 30/09/03 10:31 Dissatisfied there is absolutely no money or security to look towards future projects reshuffle of the hecs progam Soppose i will receive a worse education at the expense of funding other courses Liberal None 18-30 Female 6014 Finished High School 30/09/03 11:23 Ver_dissatisfied grossly inadequate more autonomy allows more stratification. industrial ties immoral Soppose need to have accessible tertiary education and good research Liberal Strong 51-60 Female 5013 Postgraduate degree 30/09/03 12:59 Neither "Higher Education is costing me a lot of money, but I guess at least I don't have to pay until I start earning." That there will be the possibility for universities to charge more for popular courses. Soppose It seems to me that I'm going to have to pay more for little or no benefit. Labor Weak 18-30 Male 6105 Finished High School 30/09/03 13:20 Ver_dissatisfied In one word - HECS That unis can charge a portion of HECS as an upfront fee and that funding levels have been reduced causing course cancellations Soppose "The proposed changes make education a privilege, not a right so that only the wealthy can afford it." Green Strong 51-60 Male 6025 Finished High School 30/09/03 13:20 Ver_dissatisfied Universities are drastically underfunded "Increased charges for students, more non-merit based positions in courses" Soppose Education has public benefit and is not solely for the wealthy Democrat Vstrong 18-30 Male 6153 Finished High School 30/09/03 14:37 Dissatisfied Australian Universities are not world class: they must be in order to make Australia competitive on the world stage. The legislation creates a market-based higher education system which gives universities more autonomy and enables them to provide students and academics with greater resources and teaching aids. support_supp "It will enable Australian Universities to pursue excellence without being hamstrung by current levels of government red-tape, regulation and quota levels. This will mean unviersities will be able to provide the best education and research levels possible." Liberal Vstrong 18-30 Male 6009 Finished High School 30/09/03 17:21 Ver_dissatisfied Funding levels are not nearly high enough but further funding should come from the private sector. "The funding changes involve some deregulation to fees, some more public funding plus the introduction of a loans scheme." support "The reforms will deliver more choice, accessibility and accountability." National Vstrong 18-30 Male 6050 Bachelors degree 01/10/03 2:01 Dissatisfied inadequte and inequitable Full-fee paying students invited when TER makes them ineligible Oppose Makes University more accessible for the rich Labor Strong 61+ Female 5045 Bachelors degree 01/10/03 9:51 Ver_dissatisfied "University depts (particularly in the Arts) have experienced staffing cutbacks that are detrimental to learning and research. In terms of Austudy, the level of funding is barely enough to keep the average student above the poverty line. " The cost of eduation is being shifted from the govt to students through the introduction of more full fee paying places and an increase in fees for HECS places. Soppose The proposed changes devalue the importance & undermine the quality of education in Australia. Students should not have to work 30 hrs/wk to support themselves through uni. Labor Weak 31-40 Female 3122 Postgraduate degree 01/10/03 10:14 Ver_dissatisfied The Howard government's massive funding cuts from the Australian University Sector since 1996. "They are simply more Howard ideology trying, to model Australia on American user-pay conservatism: higher fees for students with no net change in funding; time limits on learning to stop an unknown number of lifetime students; and attacks on unionism." Soppose Because I am a student who will be affected first hand by the changes and I do not believe that they are in the best interests of students and the Australian University sector as a whole. Labor Strong 18-30 Male 2032 Bachelors degree 01/10/03 10:57 Ver_dissatisfied "the cost of units does not reflect the quality of the education received, nor do the actual fees go to resourcing the unit being studied. sitting in class is like going to the movies to get your car repaired..." "My understanding is that students will be left with a craphouse education and a massive life debt that will proclude them from ever owning homes, taking out loans or self-sufficiency. The govt that brings in these changes will ruin this country." Soppose "Because you're destroying the financial lives of the youth of Australia - the emphasis is being placed on money, rather than on education...you're creating an aura of eletism, when education is a basic right...and one that should be free for ALL." Liberal None 18-30 Female 6020 Bachelors degree 01/10/03 18:50 Satisfied I am somewhat satisfied as at least the current system values equality and merit whereas Howard and Nelson's propsoal does not seem as beneficial or progressive as it conveys itself - overall longterm it is only giving universities one rather slim option. My interpretation of the Nelson Review is that is capitalist and not in the best interest of equality or diversity rather detreimental within individual university's student body and outside in society for the long run.. Soppose It is ultimately promoting inequality and survival of the richest rather than of the most capable - which may see our universities lose their world standards. Labor Strong 18-30 Female 3030 Finished High School 02/10/03 0:54 Ver_dissatisfied Education is a crucial necessity and should be given priority in public funding along with health and social security. "Students will be expected to pay more for their degrees, or, to put it another way, the amount the student contributes to the total cost of the course will increase and I presume that the amount the Gov't contributes will probably decrease. User pays." Soppose "University will be less accessible for poorer people, studemts will be in bigger debt and paying of the debt for longer amount of time. University will only be available for rich people. Gov't gets more money but pays out less." Labor Strong 31-40 Male 4210 Finished High School 02/10/03 1:51 Ver_dissatisfied The spiraling cost of higher education to the students is totally disruptive to learning. "Simple, fee paying students get greater priority" Soppose Do you want us to turn into America? One of the few countries in the world with a declining rate of education? Democrat None 18-30 Male 6019 Bachelors degree 02/10/03 14:49 Ver_dissatisfied "Hecs debts are a big dissincentive to students from lower s.e groups, Bigger tute groups and less time available for student/lecturer/student contact" fundamentally shifting the cost to the students and their families Soppose higher education is a national investment in our future. Excluding people on the basis of economic means is excluding a group in our society from making a positive contribution to their future and that of our nation Labor Strong 51-60 Female 5016 Postgraduate degree 03/10/03 12:15 Ver_dissatisfied "staff disempowered, casualised, trivialised. Pat and conditions much worse than TAFE." fiscal responsibility and accountability overiding quality of service or conditions of employment Soppose I shouldn't have to sacrifice pay and conditions for the kudos of working at a University. I feel manipulated as a staff member. Green Other 41-50 Male 6158 TAFE or equivalent diploma 03/10/03 15:47 Dissatisfied tertiary education is not held in as high a regard that it should "replace hecs with a loan system based on real interest rates, fees are able to rise, Industrial Relations changes, full fee places increased, grants able to be accessed for the under priveledged ... allegedly" Soppose i believe that tertiary education should be by merit not by affordability Labor None 18-30 Male 2650 Finished High School 03/10/03 16:38 Dissatisfied "not enough teachers, resources and places AND students are forced to pay thousands to be trained in professions vital to the community (eg health sector)" "more money but attached to AWAs, decreased threshold of HECs repayment, VSU, increased fee paying places, specialisation of universities" Soppose "seems like it would benefit the bottom lines of the GO8 universities, and is a definate detriment to the working conditions of those in tertiary education. education should be free!" Labor Vstrong 18-30 Female 2141 Finished High School 04/10/03 9:09 Ver_dissatisfied "Well, we have to pay for our own tertiary education which is practically a necessity these days when it comes to finding work" "From what I've read, they are reducing the amount they spend and privitising it as much as possible" Soppose I oppose most of the Howard Government's policies Labor Strong 18-30 Female 4122 Bachelors degree 04/10/03 15:03 Ver_dissatisfied "while there has been signficant growth in student numbers, academic innovation, accountablity and enterprise there has not been a commensurate growth in funding. Salaries are too low so that academics work because of a comitment not for money. " "Move from input to output funding. Large well resources old capital city Universities will meet new demands will benefit, Regional, small universities meetin the nontraditional styudent needs will lose out" Neither "There is not a commitment to support universities. The commitment is there for better quality HE and that is good, but this is a punitive approach rather than encouraging." Democrat Strong 51-60 Female 5050 Postgraduate degree 04/10/03 17:20 Ver_dissatisfied "All of my classes are overcrowded- in fact everything on campus is overcrowded! Also, HECS vs paid upfront students driving up fees." Deregulated fees so that the sandstone Uni's can keep out the working class and the thinking poor. Soppose Diversity of opinion (and thus tolerance) is fostered through universal education. Expensive education excludes the less wealthy Labor Strong 18-30 Male 6001 Did not finish High School 06/10/03 21:38 Ver_dissatisfied Current fundinbg arrangements are shifting the burden onto students more and more. far greater government funding is required for a sustainable and equitable system to be a reality. "The package is largeky aimed at deregulation of fees yet coupled with extraordinarily interventionist anti-union provisions, as well as voluntary stduents unionism. The overall impact of the changes would be a less equitable and accessible system." Soppose "I believe in free and accesible higher education. This package stands in complete opposition to that, making education something only the most privileged can afford." Green None 18-30 Male 2043 Bachelors degree 08/10/03 14:21 Ver_dissatisfied "I think universities should be able to fund small group under-graduate teaching, quality (not time limited) postgraduate research, and academics doing other things than admin!" "Increased HECS fees, interest on full-fee loans, increased casualisation, union bashing." Soppose "I believe that education is a social good, and should be funded through a more progressive taxation system (and yes, I pay tax , and am willing to pay more!)." Green Weak 31-40 Female 3054 Postgraduate degree 08/10/03 14:39 Satisfied Australia has a good tertiary sector but should support it further by more funding "further funding on basis of opening up tertiary sector, allows for full fee paying students, requires universities to alter existing employment relations" Soppose we need less govt intervention and more funds into the tertiary sector Green Strong 31-40 Female 6101 Bachelors degree 08/10/03 17:56 Ver_dissatisfied "Very dissatisfied - because education is a public good, the reintroduction of fees and tying grants to fee both has limited access and changed the nature of how education is delivered" Further tying of funding to fees and the possibility of individual contracts for academics and other staff Soppose see 2 Green None 41-50 Female 5031 Bachelors degree 08/10/03 19:04 Ver_dissatisfied Being a student currently I'm well aware of the inadequacies in the system. "allow universities to set HECS fees up to 30% current levels, increase full fee places." support "I think it would introduce better incentives for both students and universities, although the package could have been designed better." Labor Vstrong 18-30 Male 3054 Finished High School 09/10/03 11:46 Satisfied limited variety and inadequate resources "raising of the HECS repayment threshhold, reduction of degree time to 5yrs (not 10yrs), higher fees through deregulation" Oppose "deregulation will result in the raising of costs for a group in society already mostly struggling to meet basic needs, placing onus of cost on the individual" Green None 18-30 Male 6155 Bachelors degree 09/10/03 12:15 Ver_dissatisfied Univrsity education is an investment in the nation's future and starving it of funds is a false economy. "Universities will get funds only if they conform to the Govt's ideological prejudices in, eg, industrial relations." Soppose "Governments should not seek to impose their ideologies on universities, which exist to serve the nation not the Govt." Green Strong 51-60 Male 2905 Bachelors degree 12/10/03 21:36 Satisfied A university education involves a combination of public and private benefit. It's only fair that students bear some of the cost. I think the current mix of cost sharing is about right. "Tuition rates will be deregulated to some extent, with universities allowed to charge up to 30% above government-approved HECS levels. Unis will also have more flexibility to enroll a greater number of full-fee paying students." support "Some level of competition based on market principles is a good thing, as it will require unis to show how their product justifies a higher price. Ultimate students will benefit with greater levels of differentiation in the market." Democrat Weak 31-40 Male 3070 Postgraduate degree 13/10/03 11:17